<div dir="auto">I would love to see debian conference held in India. This will most certainly see the expansion of plug too. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shiresh is right, it is essential to have 1/2/3 star hotels and hostels as accomodation preference. What i would like to know is that how feasible this is. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Are we receiving sponsorship? Do we have a budget? </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 3:49 PM <<a href="mailto:plug-mail-request@plug.org.in">plug-mail-request@plug.org.in</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send plug-mail mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)<br>
2. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (shirish शिरीष)<br>
3. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (akshat)<br>
4. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:05:01 +0530<br>
From: Skool!lookS <<a href="mailto:look.kool@guruvision.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">look.kool@guruvision.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India<br>
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Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or <br>
purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word <br>
"descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.<br>
<br>
Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today, <br>
because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when <br>
written thus.<br>
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On Monday 06 August 2018 02:53 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:<br>
> at bottom :-<br>
> <br>
> On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <<a href="mailto:look.kool@guruvision.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">look.kool@guruvision.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Affraid of argument?<br>
>><br>
>> Feel free to express...<br>
>><br>
>> Origin of name Debian. .. and what not?<br>
>><br>
>> I think it will be better to not hold conference in India if comfort<br>
>> becomes a priority and that too at Company's Dime..<br>
>><br>
>> We just hold onto our "Nickel", till "Cent" prefers to descend from Cloud 9.<br>
>><br>
> <br>
> Guru,<br>
> <br>
> It's the companies who sponsor and make money on Debian. Why do you<br>
> think the companies who sponsor debconf shell so much money on Debian<br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://debconf18.debconf.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://debconf18.debconf.org/</a><br>
> <br>
> See the list of sponsors.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf</a><br>
> <br>
> Also then what would say of nullcon India and other such conferences.<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://nullcon.net/website/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nullcon.net/website/</a><br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://nullcon.net/website/register.php" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nullcon.net/website/register.php</a><br>
> <br>
> It's up to the people who want to have the conference to put in<br>
> efforts or not, not you.<br>
> <br>
> There are dozens of conferences round the year which use similar models.<br>
> <br>
> Hope Conference US sells tickets for the conference<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://hope.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hope.net/</a><br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://store.2600.com/products/tickets-to-the-circle-of-hope?variant=5063506821157" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://store.2600.com/products/tickets-to-the-circle-of-hope?variant=5063506821157</a><br>
> <br>
> although it was in bad news for not enforcing its own CoC but that's a<br>
> different matter altogether.<br>
> <br>
> What needs to be understood is there is no 'company' behind Debian to<br>
> foot the bill. It's a volunteer-based organization. Companies who<br>
> benefit from Debian continue to sponsor the conferences and those who<br>
> cannot send their people as corporate attendees.<br>
> <br>
> One point to note is Debian does sponsor people who have skills, show<br>
> commitment and works towards making Debian better which includes<br>
> footing fully or partially their food, travel and stay at the local<br>
> dorm.<br>
> <br>
> I am guessing you have no issues with ruby conference asking for<br>
> sponsorship money and making money on tickets, only Debian ?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.rubyconfindia.org/pdf/RCI19SponsorshipProspectus.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rubyconfindia.org/pdf/RCI19SponsorshipProspectus.pdf</a><br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.townscript.com/e/rci19/booking" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.townscript.com/e/rci19/booking</a><br>
> <br>
> I could give dozens of examples and if you put in the hard work you<br>
> probably would get them all as well.<br>
> <br>
> Give me an argument worth fighting for, mate.<br>
> <br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:32:52 +0530<br>
From: shirish शिरीष <<a href="mailto:shirishag75@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">shirishag75@gmail.com</a>><br>
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at bottom :-<br>
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On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <<a href="mailto:look.kool@guruvision.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">look.kool@guruvision.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or<br>
> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word<br>
> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.<br>
><br>
> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,<br>
> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when<br>
> written thus.<br>
><br>
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<snipped><br>
<br>
Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels<br>
do of their own free will.<br>
<br>
Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions, nobody I<br>
know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.<br>
<br>
And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india<br>
please share ? As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India and<br>
the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether they<br>
want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the<br>
organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard<br>
for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a<br>
prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries would<br>
also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:16:33 +0800<br>
From: akshat <<a href="mailto:akshat-pg8@iiitmk.ac.in" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">akshat-pg8@iiitmk.ac.in</a>><br>
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Thank you, Raju, for the wonderful presentation. It was a quite a nice<br>
experience in attending DebConf18 and meeting the Debian community. All I<br>
have seen that most of the people are inclined towards making happen a<br>
DebConf20 at India which initially we were not thinking about. They have<br>
forced us to bid this time and we have already accepted the challenge :)<br>
Let's do the hard work and win the bid.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Amey Abhyankar <<a href="mailto:sco1984@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sco1984@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> नमस्ते,<br>
><br>
> On 4 August 2018 at 13:03, rajudev <<a href="mailto:rajudev@disroot.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rajudev@disroot.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 4 अगस्त 2018 3:21:07 pm GMT+08:00, Siji Sunny <<a href="mailto:sijisunny@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sijisunny@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> >>> Hello.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On 3 August 2018 6:02:48 PM IST, Raju Devidas <<a href="mailto:rajudev@disroot.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rajudev@disroot.org</a>><br>
> >>wrote:<br>
> >>> >Namaste Everyone,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> >I have not decided up on the City or venue.<br>
> >>> >If you have any suggestions regarding the same, let us know.<br>
> >>> >The general consensus is to make it happen in Kerala or at Pune,<br>
> >>> >Maharashtra.<br>
><br>
> Pune is definitely a good strategic city.<br>
> Close to Asia's 1 of the busiest airport i.e. Mumbai & accessible from<br>
> Bangalore,Hyderabad,Cochin & other metro cities by several mode of<br>
> transportations.<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
Yes, definetely Pune is a good strategic city for various reasons we<br>
discussed.<br>
<br>
<br>
> I have a wild guess that University of Pune aka Savitribai Phule<br>
> university can help to host DebConf.<br>
<br>
<br>
Another host which I can think of is IISER Pune which has the really good<br>
infrastructure for providing the venue for DebConf. IISER has a really good<br>
campus with excellent auditoriums and Dormitories for stay and a lot of<br>
open space for various DebCOnf activities. I have some connections with<br>
IISER Pune I can talk to them.<br>
<br>
Another venue could be NCRA Pune and IUCAA Pune together as host with<br>
really good on campus stay and auditoriums and space for conference Dinner<br>
and parties. I have a really good connection with them also but in this<br>
case, we have to talk to both institutes.<br>
<br>
If we plan in Kerala then NIT Calicut can also be considred as a good<br>
option or CSE Trivandrum.<br>
<br>
I have attended Cent OS DOJO event in University Of Pune's campus few<br>
> years back arranged by Pune Linux User Group.<br>
><br>
> University Of Pune has many dormitories.<br>
> Date just need to be when its holiday time for university students I<br>
> guess. :-)<br>
><br>
><br>
> >>> >You are welcome to suggest alternate cities or venues for the bid.<br>
> >>> >I would be suggesting the cities but would not be giving specifics<br>
> >>as<br>
> >>> >that is not decided yet.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> >Let us know about your views and opinions/questions about the same.<br>
> >>><br>
> >><br>
> >>Go ahead, we can surely make it happen in India.Pls connect me, if you<br>
> >>required any further support for the bidding process.<br>
> ><br>
> > Just to want to announce.<br>
> ><br>
> > We have made the bid presentation today morning.<br>
> > So we are on with the bid now.<br>
><br>
> Fantastic = <a href="https://gemmei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebCo" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gemmei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebCo</a><br>
> nf18/2018-08-04/debconf20-in-your-city.webm<br>
><br>
><br>
> > I presented the bid and answered question's.<br>
><br>
> Thanks Raju for the awesome presentation.<br>
><br>
> > Kartik Mistry was in attendance from the Debian India Community there at<br>
> DebConf.<br>
> ><br>
> > This was the early bid.<br>
> > Bidding does not mean that we have to do it.<br>
> > It means expression of interest in doing so.<br>
> > We have made an early bid trying to create Interest about a DebConf in<br>
> India for 2020/21<br>
> ><br>
> > The other bids that happened are<br>
> > Portugal<br>
> > Israel<br>
> > Slovakia<br>
><br>
> Israel & Slovakia bids were there last year too =<br>
> <a href="https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debco" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debco</a><br>
> nf17/debconf-19-in-your-city.vp8.webm<br>
> ><br>
> > DC19 is going to happen in Curitiba, Brazil<br>
> > We will have to make a formal bid again next year at DC19<br>
><br>
> I hope DD's aka Debian Developers from India are traveling to Brazil<br>
> next year for DebConf19 :-)<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Amey.<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Give a bid. Let's see :)<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> >cheers,<br>
> >>> >Raju Devidas<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --abhijith<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
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> >>><br>
> >>><br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:47:58 +0530<br>
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On Monday 06 August 2018 03:32 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:<br>
> at bottom :-<br>
> <br>
> On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <<a href="mailto:look.kool@guruvision.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">look.kool@guruvision.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or<br>
>> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word<br>
>> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.<br>
>><br>
>> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,<br>
>> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when<br>
>> written thus.<br>
>><br>
> <br>
> <snipped><br>
> <br>
> Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels<br>
> do of their own free will.<br>
<br>
DO NOT know what this sentence above refered to...<br>
> <br>
> Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions, nobody I<br>
> know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.<br>
<br>
I am not the member there, no reason for me to become also.<br>
<br>
I only voice a single person's opinion, you are free to seek others. <br>
Why in the hell did you assume that nobody on PLUG mailing list will <br>
answer?<br>
<br>
Most prefer to keep quiet albeit with documented and proven wisdom :-)<br>
<br>
But be prepared to get surprised (always).<br>
<br>
> <br>
> And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india<br>
> please share ? As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India and<br>
> the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether they<br>
> want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the<br>
> organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard<br>
> for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a<br>
> prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries would<br>
> also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.<br>
> <br>
<br>
I did not assume any authority like you. Neither on behalf of organizers <br>
not on behalf of sponsors. Prestige which make me dress/behave like <br>
what others like to see me as becomes and remains "Pure Drama".<br>
<br>
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