[PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 43, Issue 5

[simran dhamija]

I would love to see debian conference held in India. This will most
certainly see the expansion of plug too.

Shiresh is right, it is essential to have 1/2/3 star hotels and hostels as
accomodation preference. What i would like to know is that how feasible
this is.

Are we receiving sponsorship? Do we have a budget?

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 3:49 PM <plug-mail-request at plug.org.in> wrote:

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>    1. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
>    2. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (shirish शिरीष)
>    3. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (akshat)
>    4. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
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> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:05:01 +0530
> From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com>
> To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
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> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>
> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when
> written thus.
>
> On Monday 06 August 2018 02:53 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
> > at bottom :-
> >
> > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com> wrote:
> >> Affraid of argument?
> >>
> >> Feel free to express...
> >>
> >> Origin of name Debian. ..  and what not?
> >>
> >> I think it will be better to not hold conference in India if comfort
> >> becomes a priority and that too at Company's Dime..
> >>
> >> We just hold onto our "Nickel", till "Cent" prefers to descend from
> Cloud 9.
> >>
> >
> > Guru,
> >
> > It's the companies who sponsor and make money on Debian. Why do you
> > think the companies who sponsor debconf shell so much money on Debian
> > ?
> >
> > https://debconf18.debconf.org/
> >
> > See the list of sponsors.
> >
> >
> https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf
> >
> > Also then what would say of nullcon India and other such conferences.
> >
> > https://nullcon.net/website/
> >
> > https://nullcon.net/website/register.php
> >
> > It's up to the people who want to have the conference to put in
> > efforts or not, not you.
> >
> > There are dozens of conferences round the year which use similar models.
> >
> > Hope Conference US sells tickets for the conference
> >
> > https://hope.net/
> >
> >
> https://store.2600.com/products/tickets-to-the-circle-of-hope?variant=5063506821157
> >
> > although it was in bad news for not enforcing its own CoC but that's a
> > different matter altogether.
> >
> > What needs to be understood is there is no 'company' behind Debian to
> > foot the bill. It's a volunteer-based organization. Companies who
> > benefit from Debian continue to sponsor the conferences and those who
> > cannot send their people as corporate attendees.
> >
> > One point to note is Debian does sponsor people who have skills, show
> > commitment and works towards making Debian better which includes
> > footing fully or partially their food, travel and stay at the local
> > dorm.
> >
> > I am guessing you have no issues with ruby conference asking for
> > sponsorship money and making money on tickets, only Debian ?
> >
> > https://www.rubyconfindia.org/pdf/RCI19SponsorshipProspectus.pdf
> >
> > https://www.townscript.com/e/rci19/booking
> >
> > I could give dozens of examples and if you put in the hard work you
> > probably would get them all as well.
> >
> > Give me an argument worth fighting for, mate.
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:32:52 +0530
> From: shirish शिरीष <shirishag75 at gmail.com>
> To: debian-in <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>
> Cc: "Pune Linux Users' Group" <plug-mail at plug.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
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> at bottom :-
>
> On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com> wrote:
> > Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
> > purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
> > "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
> >
> > Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
> > because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when
> > written thus.
> >
>
> <snipped>
>
> Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels
> do of their own free will.
>
> Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions, nobody I
> know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>
> And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india
> please share ?  As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India and
> the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether they
> want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
> organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard
> for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
> prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries would
> also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:16:33 +0800
> From: akshat <akshat-pg8 at iiitmk.ac.in>
> To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" <plug-mail at plug.org.in>
> Cc: rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org>, Siji Sunny <sijisunny at gmail.com>,
>         _List_Debian_Indian_Users <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>,
> Abhijith
>         PA <abhijith at disroot.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
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> Thank you, Raju, for the wonderful presentation. It was a quite a nice
> experience in attending DebConf18 and meeting the Debian community. All I
> have seen that most of the people are inclined towards making happen a
> DebConf20 at India which initially we were not thinking about. They have
> forced us to bid this time and we have already accepted the challenge :)
> Let's do the hard work and win the bid.
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1984 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > नमस्ते,
> >
> > On 4 August 2018 at 13:03, rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 अगस्त 2018 3:21:07 pm GMT+08:00, Siji Sunny <sijisunny at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hello.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3 August 2018 6:02:48 PM IST, Raju Devidas <rajudev at disroot.org>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>> >Namaste Everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> >I have not decided up on the City or venue.
> > >>> >If you have any suggestions regarding the same, let us know.
> > >>> >The general consensus is to make it happen in Kerala or at Pune,
> > >>> >Maharashtra.
> >
> > Pune is definitely a good strategic city.
> > Close to Asia's 1 of the busiest airport i.e. Mumbai & accessible from
> > Bangalore,Hyderabad,Cochin & other metro cities by several mode of
> > transportations.
> >
>
>
> Yes, definetely Pune is a good strategic city for various reasons we
> discussed.
>
>
> > I have a wild guess that University of Pune aka Savitribai Phule
> > university can help to host DebConf.
>
>
> Another host which I can think of is IISER Pune which has the really good
> infrastructure for providing the venue for DebConf. IISER has a really good
> campus with excellent auditoriums and Dormitories for stay and a lot of
> open space for various DebCOnf activities.  I have some connections with
> IISER Pune I can talk to them.
>
> Another venue could be NCRA Pune and IUCAA Pune together as host with
> really good on campus stay and auditoriums and space for conference Dinner
> and parties. I have a really good connection with them also but in this
> case, we have to talk to both institutes.
>
> If we plan in Kerala then NIT Calicut can also be considred as a good
> option or CSE Trivandrum.
>
> I have attended Cent OS DOJO event in University Of Pune's campus few
> > years back arranged by Pune Linux User Group.
> >
> > University Of Pune has many dormitories.
> > Date just need to be when its holiday time for university students I
> > guess. :-)
> >
> >
> > >>> >You are welcome to suggest alternate cities or venues for the bid.
> > >>> >I would be suggesting the cities but would not be giving specifics
> > >>as
> > >>> >that is not decided yet.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Let us know about your views and opinions/questions about the same.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Go ahead, we can surely make it happen in India.Pls connect me, if you
> > >>required any further support for the bidding process.
> > >
> > > Just to want to announce.
> > >
> > > We have made the bid presentation today morning.
> > > So we are on with the bid now.
> >
> > Fantastic = https://gemmei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebCo
> > nf18/2018-08-04/debconf20-in-your-city.webm
> >
> >
> > > I presented the bid and answered question's.
> >
> > Thanks Raju for the awesome presentation.
> >
> > > Kartik Mistry was in attendance from the Debian India Community there
> at
> > DebConf.
> > >
> > > This was the early bid.
> > > Bidding does not mean that we have to do it.
> > > It means expression of interest in doing so.
> > > We have made an early bid trying to create Interest about a DebConf in
> > India for 2020/21
> > >
> > > The other bids that happened are
> > > Portugal
> > > Israel
> > > Slovakia
> >
> > Israel & Slovakia bids were there last year too =
> > https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debco
> > nf17/debconf-19-in-your-city.vp8.webm
> > >
> > > DC19 is going to happen in Curitiba, Brazil
> > > We will have to make a formal bid again next year at DC19
> >
> > I hope DD's aka Debian Developers from India are traveling to Brazil
> > next year for DebConf19 :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amey.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Give a bid.  Let's see :)
> > >>>
> > >>> >cheers,
> > >>> >Raju Devidas
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --abhijith
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:47:58 +0530
> From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com>
> To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in>
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> On Monday 06 August 2018 03:32 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
> > at bottom :-
> >
> > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com> wrote:
> >> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
> >> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
> >> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
> >>
> >> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
> >> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when
> >> written thus.
> >>
> >
> > <snipped>
> >
> > Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels
> > do of their own free will.
>
> DO NOT know what this sentence above refered to...
> >
> > Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions, nobody I
> > know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>
> I am not the member there, no reason for me to become also.
>
> I only voice a single person's opinion, you are free to seek others.
> Why in the hell did you assume that nobody on PLUG mailing list will
> answer?
>
> Most prefer to keep quiet albeit with documented and proven wisdom :-)
>
> But be prepared to get surprised (always).
>
> >
> > And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india
> > please share ?  As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India and
> > the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether they
> > want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
> > organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard
> > for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
> > prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries would
> > also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
> >
>
> I did not assume any authority like you. Neither on behalf of organizers
> not on behalf of sponsors.  Prestige which make me dress/behave like
> what others like to see me as becomes and remains "Pure Drama".
>
>
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>   is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
>   postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a
>   straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
>   of nature .."  -- From "The Goal" by E.M. Goldratt
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