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Skool!lookS
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Mon Aug 6 16:15:32 IST 2018
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On Monday 06 August 2018 04:11 PM, Skool!lookS wrote:
> Why NOT 5 star?
>
> :-)
>
> No need to bless PLUG so early, PLUG can have and has a stand of it's own.
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> On Monday 06 August 2018 04:06 PM, simran dhamija wrote:
>> I would love to see debian conference held in India. This will most
>> certainly see the expansion of plug too.
>>
>> Shiresh is right, it is essential to have 1/2/3 star hotels and
>> hostels as accomodation preference. What i would like to know is that
>> how feasible this is.
>>
>> Are we receiving sponsorship? Do we have a budget?
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>> 1. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
>> 2. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (shirish शिरीष)
>> 3. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (akshat)
>> 4. Re: Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:05:01 +0530
>> From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>>
>> To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>> <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>> Message-ID: <28929ceb-0fd8-5614-df21-94351eeb6385 at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:28929ceb-0fd8-5614-df21-94351eeb6385 at guruvision.com>>
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>> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
>> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>>
>> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when
>> written thus.
>>
>> On Monday 06 August 2018 02:53 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>> > at bottom :-
>> >
>> > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>> >> Affraid of argument?
>> >>
>> >> Feel free to express...
>> >>
>> >> Origin of name Debian. .. and what not?
>> >>
>> >> I think it will be better to not hold conference in India if
>> comfort
>> >> becomes a priority and that too at Company's Dime..
>> >>
>> >> We just hold onto our "Nickel", till "Cent" prefers to descend
>> from Cloud 9.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Guru,
>> >
>> > It's the companies who sponsor and make money on Debian. Why do
>> you
>> > think the companies who sponsor debconf shell so much money on
>> Debian
>> > ?
>> >
>> > https://debconf18.debconf.org/
>> >
>> > See the list of sponsors.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf
>>
>> >
>> > Also then what would say of nullcon India and other such
>> conferences.
>> >
>> > https://nullcon.net/website/
>> >
>> > https://nullcon.net/website/register.php
>> >
>> > It's up to the people who want to have the conference to put in
>> > efforts or not, not you.
>> >
>> > There are dozens of conferences round the year which use similar
>> models.
>> >
>> > Hope Conference US sells tickets for the conference
>> >
>> > https://hope.net/
>> >
>> >
>>
>> https://store.2600.com/products/tickets-to-the-circle-of-hope?variant=5063506821157
>>
>> >
>> > although it was in bad news for not enforcing its own CoC but
>> that's a
>> > different matter altogether.
>> >
>> > What needs to be understood is there is no 'company' behind
>> Debian to
>> > foot the bill. It's a volunteer-based organization. Companies who
>> > benefit from Debian continue to sponsor the conferences and
>> those who
>> > cannot send their people as corporate attendees.
>> >
>> > One point to note is Debian does sponsor people who have
>> skills, show
>> > commitment and works towards making Debian better which includes
>> > footing fully or partially their food, travel and stay at the
>> local
>> > dorm.
>> >
>> > I am guessing you have no issues with ruby conference asking for
>> > sponsorship money and making money on tickets, only Debian ?
>> >
>> > https://www.rubyconfindia.org/pdf/RCI19SponsorshipProspectus.pdf
>> >
>> > https://www.townscript.com/e/rci19/booking
>> >
>> > I could give dozens of examples and if you put in the hard work
>> you
>> > probably would get them all as well.
>> >
>> > Give me an argument worth fighting for, mate.
>> >
>>
>> -- Consultant Spirituel
>>
>> Guruvision Inc.
>>
>> --
>> "Science is nothing more than an understanding of the way the world
>> is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
>> postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a
>> straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
>> of nature .." -- From "The Goal" by E.M. Goldratt
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:32:52 +0530
>> From: shirish शिरीष <shirishag75 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:shirishag75 at gmail.com>>
>> To: debian-in <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org
>> <mailto:debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>>
>> Cc: "Pune Linux Users' Group" <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>> <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>> Message-ID:
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>> at bottom :-
>>
>> On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>> > Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
>> > purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>> > "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>> >
>> > Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>> > because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me
>> when
>> > written thus.
>> >
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels
>> do of their own free will.
>>
>> Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions,
>> nobody I
>> know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>>
>> And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india
>> please share ? As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India
>> and
>> the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether
>> they
>> want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
>> organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard
>> for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
>> prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries
>> would
>> also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
>>
>> -- Regards,
>> Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:16:33 +0800
>> From: akshat <akshat-pg8 at iiitmk.ac.in
>> <mailto:akshat-pg8 at iiitmk.ac.in>>
>> To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>> <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>> Cc: rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>>, Siji
>> Sunny <sijisunny at gmail.com <mailto:sijisunny at gmail.com>>,
>> _List_Debian_Indian_Users <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org
>> <mailto:debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>>, Abhijith
>> PA <abhijith at disroot.org <mailto:abhijith at disroot.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>> Message-ID:
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>> Thank you, Raju, for the wonderful presentation. It was a quite a
>> nice
>> experience in attending DebConf18 and meeting the Debian community.
>> All I
>> have seen that most of the people are inclined towards making
>> happen a
>> DebConf20 at India which initially we were not thinking about.
>> They have
>> forced us to bid this time and we have already accepted the
>> challenge :)
>> Let's do the hard work and win the bid.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1984 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:sco1984 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> > नमस्ते,
>> >
>> > On 4 August 2018 at 13:03, rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org
>> <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 4 अगस्त 2018 3:21:07 pm GMT+08:00, Siji Sunny
>> <sijisunny at gmail.com <mailto:sijisunny at gmail.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> Hello.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 3 August 2018 6:02:48 PM IST, Raju Devidas
>> <rajudev at disroot.org <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>>
>> > >>wrote:
>> > >>> >Namaste Everyone,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> >I have not decided up on the City or venue.
>> > >>> >If you have any suggestions regarding the same, let us know.
>> > >>> >The general consensus is to make it happen in Kerala or at
>> Pune,
>> > >>> >Maharashtra.
>> >
>> > Pune is definitely a good strategic city.
>> > Close to Asia's 1 of the busiest airport i.e. Mumbai & accessible
>> from
>> > Bangalore,Hyderabad,Cochin & other metro cities by several mode of
>> > transportations.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Yes, definetely Pune is a good strategic city for various reasons we
>> discussed.
>>
>>
>> > I have a wild guess that University of Pune aka Savitribai Phule
>> > university can help to host DebConf.
>>
>>
>> Another host which I can think of is IISER Pune which has the really
>> good
>> infrastructure for providing the venue for DebConf. IISER has a
>> really good
>> campus with excellent auditoriums and Dormitories for stay and a
>> lot of
>> open space for various DebCOnf activities. I have some
>> connections with
>> IISER Pune I can talk to them.
>>
>> Another venue could be NCRA Pune and IUCAA Pune together as host with
>> really good on campus stay and auditoriums and space for conference
>> Dinner
>> and parties. I have a really good connection with them also but in
>> this
>> case, we have to talk to both institutes.
>>
>> If we plan in Kerala then NIT Calicut can also be considred as a good
>> option or CSE Trivandrum.
>>
>> I have attended Cent OS DOJO event in University Of Pune's campus few
>> > years back arranged by Pune Linux User Group.
>> >
>> > University Of Pune has many dormitories.
>> > Date just need to be when its holiday time for university
>> students I
>> > guess. :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > >>> >You are welcome to suggest alternate cities or venues for
>> the bid.
>> > >>> >I would be suggesting the cities but would not be giving
>> specifics
>> > >>as
>> > >>> >that is not decided yet.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >Let us know about your views and opinions/questions about
>> the same.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>Go ahead, we can surely make it happen in India.Pls connect me,
>> if you
>> > >>required any further support for the bidding process.
>> > >
>> > > Just to want to announce.
>> > >
>> > > We have made the bid presentation today morning.
>> > > So we are on with the bid now.
>> >
>> > Fantastic =
>> https://gemmei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebCo
>> > nf18/2018-08-04/debconf20-in-your-city.webm
>> >
>> >
>> > > I presented the bid and answered question's.
>> >
>> > Thanks Raju for the awesome presentation.
>> >
>> > > Kartik Mistry was in attendance from the Debian India Community
>> there at
>> > DebConf.
>> > >
>> > > This was the early bid.
>> > > Bidding does not mean that we have to do it.
>> > > It means expression of interest in doing so.
>> > > We have made an early bid trying to create Interest about a
>> DebConf in
>> > India for 2020/21
>> > >
>> > > The other bids that happened are
>> > > Portugal
>> > > Israel
>> > > Slovakia
>> >
>> > Israel & Slovakia bids were there last year too =
>> > https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debco
>> > nf17/debconf-19-in-your-city.vp8.webm
>> > >
>> > > DC19 is going to happen in Curitiba, Brazil
>> > > We will have to make a formal bid again next year at DC19
>> >
>> > I hope DD's aka Debian Developers from India are traveling to
>> Brazil
>> > next year for DebConf19 :-)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Amey.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Give a bid. Let's see :)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> >cheers,
>> > >>> >Raju Devidas
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --abhijith
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>> brevity.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>> brevity.
>> > >
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>> From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>>
>> To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>> <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
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>> On Monday 06 August 2018 03:32 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>> > at bottom :-
>> >
>> > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>> <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>> >> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to
>> say or
>> >> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>> >> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>> >>
>> >> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>> >> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me
>> when
>> >> written thus.
>> >>
>> >
>> > <snipped>
>> >
>> > Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to
>> hotels
>> > do of their own free will.
>>
>> DO NOT know what this sentence above refered to...
>> >
>> > Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions,
>> nobody I
>> > know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>>
>> I am not the member there, no reason for me to become also.
>>
>> I only voice a single person's opinion, you are free to seek others.
>> Why in the hell did you assume that nobody on PLUG mailing list will
>> answer?
>>
>> Most prefer to keep quiet albeit with documented and proven wisdom
>> :-)
>>
>> But be prepared to get surprised (always).
>>
>> >
>> > And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of
>> debian-india
>> > please share ? As shared before, it's upto people in
>> Debian-India and
>> > the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether
>> they
>> > want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
>> > organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India,
>> work hard
>> > for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
>> > prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries
>> would
>> > also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
>> >
>>
>> I did not assume any authority like you. Neither on behalf of
>> organizers
>> not on behalf of sponsors. Prestige which make me dress/behave like
>> what others like to see me as becomes and remains "Pure Drama".
>>
>>
>> -- Consultant Spirituel
>>
>> Guruvision Inc.
>>
>> --
>> "Science is nothing more than an understanding of the way the world
>> is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
>> postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a
>> straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
>> of nature .." -- From "The Goal" by E.M. Goldratt
>>
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is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
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straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
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