[PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 43, Issue 5 (Subject can become an object of ridicule)

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Mon Aug 6 16:15:32 IST 2018


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On Monday 06 August 2018 04:11 PM, Skool!lookS wrote:
> Why NOT 5 star?
> 
> :-)
> 
> No need to bless PLUG so early, PLUG can have and has a stand of it's own.
> 
> 
> On Monday 06 August 2018 04:06 PM, simran dhamija wrote:
>> I would love to see debian conference held in India. This will most 
>> certainly see the expansion of plug too.
>>
>> Shiresh is right, it is essential to have 1/2/3 star hotels and 
>> hostels as accomodation preference. What i would like to know is that 
>> how feasible this is.
>>
>> Are we receiving sponsorship? Do we have a budget?
>>
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>>         1. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
>>         2. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (shirish शिरीष)
>>         3. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (akshat)
>>         4. Re:  Debconf 20/21 in India (Skool!lookS)
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>>     Message: 1
>>     Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:05:01 +0530
>>     From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>>
>>     To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>>     <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>>     Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>>     Message-ID: <28929ceb-0fd8-5614-df21-94351eeb6385 at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:28929ceb-0fd8-5614-df21-94351eeb6385 at guruvision.com>>
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>>     Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
>>     purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>>     "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>>
>>     Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>>     because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me when
>>     written thus.
>>
>>     On Monday 06 August 2018 02:53 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>>      > at bottom :-
>>      >
>>      > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>>      >> Affraid of argument?
>>      >>
>>      >> Feel free to express...
>>      >>
>>      >> Origin of name Debian. ..  and what not?
>>      >>
>>      >> I think it will be better to not hold conference in India if 
>> comfort
>>      >> becomes a priority and that too at Company's Dime..
>>      >>
>>      >> We just hold onto our "Nickel", till "Cent" prefers to descend
>>     from Cloud 9.
>>      >>
>>      >
>>      > Guru,
>>      >
>>      > It's the companies who sponsor and make money on Debian. Why do 
>> you
>>      > think the companies who sponsor debconf shell so much money on 
>> Debian
>>      > ?
>>      >
>>      > https://debconf18.debconf.org/
>>      >
>>      > See the list of sponsors.
>>      >
>>      >
>>     
>> https://media.debconf.org/dc18/fundraising/debconf18_sponsorship_brochure_en.pdf 
>>
>>      >
>>      > Also then what would say of nullcon India and other such 
>> conferences.
>>      >
>>      > https://nullcon.net/website/
>>      >
>>      > https://nullcon.net/website/register.php
>>      >
>>      > It's up to the people who want to have the conference to put in
>>      > efforts or not, not you.
>>      >
>>      > There are dozens of conferences round the year which use similar
>>     models.
>>      >
>>      > Hope Conference US sells tickets for the conference
>>      >
>>      > https://hope.net/
>>      >
>>      >
>>     
>> https://store.2600.com/products/tickets-to-the-circle-of-hope?variant=5063506821157 
>>
>>      >
>>      > although it was in bad news for not enforcing its own CoC but
>>     that's a
>>      > different matter altogether.
>>      >
>>      > What needs to be understood is there is no 'company' behind 
>> Debian to
>>      > foot the bill. It's a volunteer-based organization. Companies who
>>      > benefit from Debian continue to sponsor the conferences and 
>> those who
>>      > cannot send their people as corporate attendees.
>>      >
>>      > One point to note is Debian does sponsor people who have 
>> skills, show
>>      > commitment and works towards making Debian better which includes
>>      > footing fully or partially their food, travel and stay at the 
>> local
>>      > dorm.
>>      >
>>      > I am guessing you have no issues with ruby conference asking for
>>      > sponsorship money and making money on tickets, only Debian ?
>>      >
>>      > https://www.rubyconfindia.org/pdf/RCI19SponsorshipProspectus.pdf
>>      >
>>      > https://www.townscript.com/e/rci19/booking
>>      >
>>      > I could give dozens of examples and if you put in the hard work 
>> you
>>      > probably would get them all as well.
>>      >
>>      > Give me an argument worth fighting for, mate.
>>      >
>>
>>     --     Consultant Spirituel
>>
>>     Guruvision Inc.
>>
>>     --
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>>        is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
>>        postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a
>>        straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
>>        of nature .."  -- From "The Goal" by E.M. Goldratt
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------
>>
>>     Message: 2
>>     Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:32:52 +0530
>>     From: shirish शिरीष <shirishag75 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:shirishag75 at gmail.com>>
>>     To: debian-in <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org
>>     <mailto:debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>>
>>     Cc: "Pune Linux Users' Group" <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>>     <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>>     Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>>     Message-ID:
>>     <CADdDZRm3wG3Q5qHi2o2fCeEMMKrxUOV7HN2GxbwGiEK8=7wX+w at mail.gmail.com
>>     <mailto:7wX%2Bw at mail.gmail.com>>
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>>     at bottom :-
>>
>>     On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>>      > Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to say or
>>      > purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>>      > "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>>      >
>>      > Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>>      > because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me 
>> when
>>      > written thus.
>>      >
>>
>>     <snipped>
>>
>>     Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to hotels
>>     do of their own free will.
>>
>>     Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions, 
>> nobody I
>>     know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>>
>>     And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of debian-india
>>     please share ?  As shared before, it's upto people in Debian-India 
>> and
>>     the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether 
>> they
>>     want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
>>     organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, work hard
>>     for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
>>     prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries 
>> would
>>     also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
>>
>>     --                Regards,
>>                Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
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>>     ------------------------------
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>>     Message: 3
>>     Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:16:33 +0800
>>     From: akshat <akshat-pg8 at iiitmk.ac.in 
>> <mailto:akshat-pg8 at iiitmk.ac.in>>
>>     To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>>     <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>>     Cc: rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>>, Siji
>>     Sunny <sijisunny at gmail.com <mailto:sijisunny at gmail.com>>,
>>              _List_Debian_Indian_Users <debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org
>>     <mailto:debian-dug-in at lists.debian.org>>, Abhijith
>>              PA <abhijith at disroot.org <mailto:abhijith at disroot.org>>
>>     Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>>     Message-ID:
>>     <CAB2EFCbBRi+nTN=6of0zBRW-=Zbr-Kve+HFj1hy1VrJD4Jx=rw at mail.gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rw at mail.gmail.com>>
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>>     Thank you, Raju, for the wonderful presentation. It was a quite a 
>> nice
>>     experience in attending DebConf18 and meeting the Debian community.
>>     All I
>>     have seen that most of the people are inclined towards making 
>> happen a
>>     DebConf20 at India which initially we were not thinking about. 
>> They have
>>     forced us to bid this time and we have already accepted the 
>> challenge :)
>>     Let's do the hard work and win the bid.
>>
>>     On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1984 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:sco1984 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>      > नमस्ते,
>>      >
>>      > On 4 August 2018 at 13:03, rajudev <rajudev at disroot.org
>>     <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>> wrote:
>>      > >
>>      > >
>>      > > On 4 अगस्त 2018 3:21:07 pm GMT+08:00, Siji Sunny
>>     <sijisunny at gmail.com <mailto:sijisunny at gmail.com>>
>>      > wrote:
>>      > >>> Hello.
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> On 3 August 2018 6:02:48 PM IST, Raju Devidas
>>     <rajudev at disroot.org <mailto:rajudev at disroot.org>>
>>      > >>wrote:
>>      > >>> >Namaste Everyone,
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> >I have not decided up on the City or venue.
>>      > >>> >If you have any suggestions regarding the same, let us know.
>>      > >>> >The general consensus is to make it happen in Kerala or at 
>> Pune,
>>      > >>> >Maharashtra.
>>      >
>>      > Pune is definitely a good strategic city.
>>      > Close to Asia's 1 of the busiest airport i.e. Mumbai & accessible
>>     from
>>      > Bangalore,Hyderabad,Cochin & other metro cities by several mode of
>>      > transportations.
>>      >
>>
>>
>>     Yes, definetely Pune is a good strategic city for various reasons we
>>     discussed.
>>
>>
>>      > I have a wild guess that University of Pune aka Savitribai Phule
>>      > university can help to host DebConf.
>>
>>
>>     Another host which I can think of is IISER Pune which has the really
>>     good
>>     infrastructure for providing the venue for DebConf. IISER has a
>>     really good
>>     campus with excellent auditoriums and Dormitories for stay and a 
>> lot of
>>     open space for various DebCOnf activities.  I have some 
>> connections with
>>     IISER Pune I can talk to them.
>>
>>     Another venue could be NCRA Pune and IUCAA Pune together as host with
>>     really good on campus stay and auditoriums and space for conference
>>     Dinner
>>     and parties. I have a really good connection with them also but in 
>> this
>>     case, we have to talk to both institutes.
>>
>>     If we plan in Kerala then NIT Calicut can also be considred as a good
>>     option or CSE Trivandrum.
>>
>>     I have attended Cent OS DOJO event in University Of Pune's campus few
>>      > years back arranged by Pune Linux User Group.
>>      >
>>      > University Of Pune has many dormitories.
>>      > Date just need to be when its holiday time for university 
>> students I
>>      > guess. :-)
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > >>> >You are welcome to suggest alternate cities or venues for
>>     the bid.
>>      > >>> >I would be suggesting the cities but would not be giving
>>     specifics
>>      > >>as
>>      > >>> >that is not decided yet.
>>      > >>> >
>>      > >>> >Let us know about your views and opinions/questions about
>>     the same.
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>
>>      > >>Go ahead, we can surely make it happen in India.Pls connect me,
>>     if you
>>      > >>required any further support for the bidding process.
>>      > >
>>      > > Just to want to announce.
>>      > >
>>      > > We have made the bid presentation today morning.
>>      > > So we are on with the bid now.
>>      >
>>      > Fantastic =
>>     https://gemmei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebCo
>>      > nf18/2018-08-04/debconf20-in-your-city.webm
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > > I presented the bid and answered question's.
>>      >
>>      > Thanks Raju for the awesome presentation.
>>      >
>>      > > Kartik Mistry was in attendance from the Debian India Community
>>     there at
>>      > DebConf.
>>      > >
>>      > > This was the early bid.
>>      > > Bidding does not mean that we have to do it.
>>      > > It means expression of interest in doing so.
>>      > > We have made an early bid trying to create Interest about a
>>     DebConf in
>>      > India for 2020/21
>>      > >
>>      > > The other bids that happened are
>>      > > Portugal
>>      > > Israel
>>      > > Slovakia
>>      >
>>      > Israel & Slovakia bids were there last year too =
>>      > https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debco
>>      > nf17/debconf-19-in-your-city.vp8.webm
>>      > >
>>      > > DC19 is going to happen in Curitiba, Brazil
>>      > > We will have to make a formal bid again next year at DC19
>>      >
>>      > I hope DD's aka Debian Developers from India are traveling to 
>> Brazil
>>      > next year for DebConf19 :-)
>>      >
>>      > Regards,
>>      > Amey.
>>      >
>>      > >
>>      > >
>>      > >
>>      > >>
>>      > >>
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> Give a bid.  Let's see :)
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> >cheers,
>>      > >>> >Raju Devidas
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> --abhijith
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>> --
>>      > >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>>     brevity.
>>      > >>>
>>      > >>>
>>      > >
>>      > > --
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>>     Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:47:58 +0530
>>     From: Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>>
>>     To: Pune Linux Users' Group <plug-mail at plug.org.in
>>     <mailto:plug-mail at plug.org.in>>
>>     Subject: Re: [PLUG] Debconf 20/21 in India
>>     Message-ID: <8c2c500c-0502-4af5-0cbc-9feb36ff0e94 at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:8c2c500c-0502-4af5-0cbc-9feb36ff0e94 at guruvision.com>>
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>>     On Monday 06 August 2018 03:32 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>>      > at bottom :-
>>      >
>>      > On 06/08/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com
>>     <mailto:look.kool at guruvision.com>> wrote:
>>      >> Without wasting my time in analyzing what you are trying to 
>> say or
>>      >> purportedly attempting to appear to say I will replace one word
>>      >> "descend" with two appearing as "climb down" in my previous post.
>>      >>
>>      >> Others may and can contributely freely to this debate ONLY today,
>>      >> because tomorrow is another (meaning disrespectful) day for me 
>> when
>>      >> written thus.
>>      >>
>>      >
>>      > <snipped>
>>      >
>>      > Nope, they already do it in universities and people who go to 
>> hotels
>>      > do of their own free will.
>>
>>     DO NOT know what this sentence above refered to...
>>      >
>>      > Btw why don't you put @debian-in while asking your questions,
>>     nobody I
>>      > know at least in PLUG has answered or will answer.
>>
>>     I am not the member there, no reason for me to become also.
>>
>>     I only voice a single person's opinion, you are free to seek others.
>>     Why in the hell did you assume that nobody on PLUG mailing list will
>>     answer?
>>
>>     Most prefer to keep quiet albeit with documented and proven wisdom 
>> :-)
>>
>>     But be prepared to get surprised (always).
>>
>>      >
>>      > And once and for all, who are you to talk on behalf of 
>> debian-india
>>      > please share ?  As shared before, it's upto people in
>>     Debian-India and
>>      > the sponsorers, delegates, organizers etc. whether or not whether
>>     they
>>      > want to have a Debconf in India or not, most importantly the
>>      > organizers when they feel fit to organize Debconf in India, 
>> work hard
>>      > for it and get the green signal from Debian. If it were not a
>>      > prestigious event than don't think people from 3 other countries
>>     would
>>      > also be trying to woo them to hold Debconf in their country.
>>      >
>>
>>     I did not assume any authority like you. Neither on behalf of
>>     organizers
>>     not on behalf of sponsors.  Prestige which make me dress/behave like
>>     what others like to see me as becomes and remains "Pure Drama".
>>
>>
>>     --     Consultant Spirituel
>>
>>     Guruvision Inc.
>>
>>     --
>>     "Science is nothing more than an understanding of the way the world
>>        is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
>>        postulate a minimum set of assumptions that can explain, through a
>>        straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
>>        of nature .."  -- From "The Goal" by E.M. Goldratt
>>
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  is and why it is that way.. (it) is the method we use to try and
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  straighforward logical derivation, the existence of many phenomena
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