[PLUG] CoFSuG and FOSS and PLUG

[Skool!lookS]

if it is not the same Shirish Agarwal that I am referring to then "Let 
all the peace in the world be with you" and you can/may continue writing 
long essays to the best of your capabilities.

However some plug members maybe (or may not be) facing a problem with 
"The Name".

The purpose of starting this thread was to de-threading the complexity 
associated with common names. (सब तो भारतरत्न अटल बिहारी वाजपेयी नही बन 
सकते, कुछ लोगोंका रोल लालकृष्ण आडवाणी का भी हो सकता है :-) )


स्वल्पाक्षरं असंदिग्धं सारवत् विश्वतोमुखम्

On Saturday 31 March 2018 06:30 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
> in-line :-
> 
> On 31/03/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com> wrote:
>> On Friday 30 March 2018 05:26 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>>> On 30/03/2018, Skool!lookS <look.kool at guruvision.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>
>> Please stop spreading false information about PLUG or otherwise.
>>
>> Most people associated with PLUG know it operates in a slightly
>> different way. I am probably associated for longer still I do not know
>> many things today.
>>
> 
> What I shared is at least 5 years back story, not today and I have not
> even shared even half the things.  This was when a friend of mine got
> admitted to a western university and I came to know that there are
> chairs like these in the European Union (EU) and quite a few students
> do get paid to work on foss outside of GSOC like environments. But as
> shared nothing ever came out of it in SICSR.  And this was when the
> management of SICSR was with us, at least the director who was
> thrilled with the prospect.
> 
> There was also talk of using MOOCs in a big way and even have most of
> the courseware freely available as mit does.  There is not even a
> proper FAQ which should be the basic resource but guess nobody thought
> of having that till date.
> 
> http://hsg.elearning.sicsr.ac.in/login/index.php is there but requires
> registration and stuff
> while MIT gives even it notes, assignments, course materials all for free.
> 
> an e.g. https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-785-number-theory-i-fall-2017/lecture-notes/
> 
> would have been nice to see sicsr name here
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course
> 
> Of course one cannot compare as there would be a world of difference
> between the budgets of the two institutes.
> 
> It is one of the reasons I simply stopped going because nothing
> was/has been happening.
> 
> Could you for a second 'elaborate' on how plug is 'different'  .
> Something concrete rather than something 'vague' just as you shared
> above.
> 
> Whenever I ask for any explanations how come it is all to be swept
> under the carpet and only I should be answering .
> 
> People used to come to plug looking for help and guidance.
> 
> They had even started a sysadmin thing for couple of weeks which was
> soon stopped afterwards, again no explanation ever given why it was
> stopped.
> 
> Should having an event once a year managed by students learning
> hospitality and having once a month meeting be enough to say that plug
> has contributed.
> 
>> You have been associated with PLUG since before year 2002 (Shall I say
>> 2001 now?)
>>
>> You had been visiting people associated with PLUG in a (may I say in the
>> disguise of) way for collecting CDs etc. when needed (so to say).
>>
>> On one such occasion in Aug-Sept 2002 you also happened to have visited
>> my place.
>>
> 
> I think you are mistaking me for another Shirish.
> 
> I joined plug in/around 2005ish. So it couldn't possibly be me.
> 
> I was told that there was another shirish when I had joined but if my
> memory is right, he had a different surname or am I have supposed to
> change my religion, my surname just so I could fabricate 17 years of
> identity so that it could be all unraveled by you in a second.
> 
> I am glad though you bought this point up as well.
> 
> Could you or anybody share why the public archives are from 2005 only.
> 
> If plug has been active since 2001 then why aren't the public archives
> till then and only 2005.
> 
> Using a bit of debian history here. Some of the most political mailing
> lists on debian are
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/
> 
> Just read one of the first posts -
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/1999/10/msg00002.html which
> talks about 'cabal' and over the years (from around 2006/7 onwards) I
> have been a lurker there and seen many wild discussions and debates.
> 
> and
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/
> 
> and both have all the archives from day 1.
> 
> I do know that the other shirish was 'banned' . If I am purported to
> be the same 'shirish' then  how come I was allowed to come again ?
> 
> I do know there were lot of acrimony back then, although am unaware of
> the details.  I was told that plug had literally divided into two
> camps or something.
> 
>> I do not know what was your purpose then for that visit, it was CD that
>> was easily available with anybody else and still you needed it from me.
>>
> 
> are you sure it was me and not the other shirish.
> 
> Because the time-frame you share I had subscriptions of both PC Quest
> and Digit and I was in my early 20's then while the other gentleman
> was supposed to be in 30's then.
> 
>> Because you made that visit as a plug member I tried to help you the
>> best I can.
>>
> 
> I just have no idea.
> 
>> Post that visit of yours, I met with almost a fatal accident (something
>> like ZOYD met with few years later).
>>
> 
> Are you trying to tell me that because of my 'alleged' visit I somehow
> made you have an almost fatal accident.
> 
> This I do know because I had met zoyd just a few days before he died
> but this was circa 2005/6  if memory serves me right and not 2001
> i.e. when zoyd died.
> 
>> Just trying to keep you updated that you also are monitored for your
>> intentions/activities. They may appear correct in presentations but
>> because of the others facing problems post your visit, people have been
>> building data over the years, like I just did and presented.
>>
> 
> Dear skool,
> 
> I don't think I need to be worried on that front. When the govt. of
> the day is doing surveillance on such a massive scale that if it wants
> it could monitor my every second movement with mobile and everything
> then I don't think I need to be worried about you.
> 
> What is interesting that you need to mask your name rather than
> sharing your info. with us.
> 
> If anybody needs to get details about me they just have to enter my
> mail id on any search-engine and they will get all the good and bad
> details they ever want about me.
> 
>> So the clock is really ticking, enjoy your stocks..!
>>
> 
> Same to you buddy.
> 
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>>
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